This is an interview I did with Tina Root and Susan Wallace of now-defunct Goth/darkwave band Switchblade Symphony. The band released four albums for Cleopatra Records before breaking up in late 1999. Tina and guitarist George Earth now perform in the band Small Halo. This interview first appeared on Suite 101.com's Rock Music site.
Manhattan, September
1999
It's been a long and fruitful road for Susan Wallace and Tina Root,
collectively known as Switchblade Symphony. In nearly ten years together, they
have paved the way for female industrial artists, and toured with big-name acts
such as Sisters of Mercy, Type O Negative, Gary Numan and Front Line Assembly.
They take the combination of cartoon innocence and somber imagery to a more
refined level, than, say the over the top renegade wilderness of Marilyn
Manson. Experimentation with trip-hop on "Bread and Jam for Francis"
gave way to the slick, landscape of their newest CD "The Three
Calamities". Taking their formal musical training, love of bands like Nina
Hagen, Skinny Puppy and Tom Waits, and love of Gothic imagery, Tina and Susan
have created a CD that should propel them on their way to a larger and more eclectic
audience.
Like the wide-eyed subjects of a Keane painting dressed in blue PVC leather,
Tina Root and Susan Wallace, the vocalist and keyboard player, respectively, of
Switchblade Symphony create music that is a study in contrast, a combination of
disparate elements that work so well together, the effect is totally natural.
The San Francisco based band recently released their third full length CD
"Three Calamities" (Cleopatra Records) and just completed a club tour
of the U.S. and Canada. I spoke with Tina & Susan before their show at
Downtime in Manhattan this summer. Tina Root, the bubbly vocalist, performed in
school and got her first taste of rock 'n roll playing bass in a boyfriend's
band. Eventually, she gave up the bass and became the group's singer. Susan
began her performing career in plays, did some modeling, and turned to music by
singing in the school choir in junior high. Her first band experience was less
than amiable, as the members of the electronic-dance group she joined told her
that she'd never get anywhere. And where are these blundering psychics now?
"I'm sure they're very happy working at Tower," Tina interjects. The
first well-known female fronted band in the industrial realm, Tina and Susan
met in 1989 when a mutual friend introduced them. "I was looking for a
band, and she had just left a band," says Tina, "They knew us, and
were like, "You guys really need to get together, you really need to talk
on the phone!", so our first initial meeting was on the phone and we spoke
to each other for eight hours straight."

Soon the burgeoning friendship turned into a musical partnership as well, and
Tina and Susan began writing songs and producing homemade tapes. They were a
fixture on the San Francisco club scene, hanging out and playing their tapes
for anyone who would listen. "We'd be like "Come into the parking lot
and listen to our demo tape," and they'd be like "Oh, my God, you
guys are psycho," Tina recalls, "Back then the tapes were really bad
quality, and it was kind of humorous. We did it to everybody."
Their persistence paid off, and soon Switchblade Symphony were a mainstay on
the San Francisco industrial scene. Industrial music, macho as heavy metal in
the early part of its reign, welcomed Tina and Susan enthusiastically. "We
always played with the boy industrial bands- it seems to have gotten bigger.
There are more women around." Switchblade's first gigs were at an Italian
restaurant. and ardent word of mouth ensued, followed by a compilation
appearance (the song Mine Eyes) and the re-release of their first single
"Mine Eyes".
Songs from Switchblade Symphony's incubation stage were featured on a special
fan club only CD called "Scrapbook" (only 2,000 were initially
pressed) , but we've been getting a lot of response from people wanting it, and
including the song after which the band is named, just for the nostalgia of it
since its the first thing we created."
Signing with industrial stalwart Cleopatra in 1995, Tina and Susan solidified
their line-up with guitarist George Earth and drummer Eric Gerbow and their
first CD, Serpentine Gallery was released, consisting mostly of older material.
The second CD, 1997's "Bread and Jam for Francis" (named after the
children's book) expounded on playfully Gothic imagery and melodies, exploring
a feminine terrain with a sense of humor that is rarely examined in any
electronic based music. The studio experience of making that CD was a bit more
structured and "hands-on". "It seemed a little rushed to
us," says Susan, "We had recently gotten new equipment and were
learning things and I started to tackle the technical side and when you first
start its very mathematical and robs the live acoustic feel from it. It’s kind
of hard to mesh the two together and that coupled with the short amount of time
we had (in the studio) where we didn't get to flower the songs with the pretty
little things to season it with - with the newer ones (the songs on "Three
Calamities") we're trying to put both of those together. For mixing down,
we like to use old vintage analog which really manipulates and changes the
sound and gives it a warmer feel - we put live drums over the drums to give
(it) a more three dimensional feel, " notes Susan. Three Calamities was recorded in Daniel Lanois' El Teatro Studios
and mixed by Grammy award winning producer Mark Howard.
Switchblade Symphony have toured with acts as diverse as 80s' techno pioneer
Gary Numan (who specifically asked that they open for him) as well as dark-hued
Brooklyn based rockers Type O Negative. Opening the West Coast leg of Type O's
1997 tour, the band was well-received by the hard-core crowd, whose glittery
stage set up and bubble machine provided a marked contrast to their tourmates'
stark image. Late Type O singer Peter Steele was a big Switchblade Symphony
fan, and the admiration was mutual. "He has such a beautiful, melodic
voice," says Susan.
Although the band is embraced by the "Goth" community, they eschew
labels. "We're just weird," comments Susan. "We are dark and
moody, and like to wear black sometimes. The music is dark and melodic, so I
think that the Gothic scene embraced us and opened their arms to us, and that's
where our core following is - and we're delighted that they like us. But we're
more like nursery rhymes, Witches (from "Bread and Jam for Francis")
is like a humorous song, with no underlying dark magic or anything."
Tina and Susan make most of their costumes, and Tina fashioned
glitter-encrusted kitties that are a mainstay of their stage show. The
atmosphere of each show varies, with forest, underwater and snow themes
featured. The band has even expanded its' merchandising, with Switchblade
Symphony tank tops, panties and other merch for sale at their shows - and
selling briskly. Touring two to three times a year for the past few years,
they've graduated from traveling in vans to a fully-equipped tour bus, enjoying
the fruits of their labor. "We've been getting along so much better,"
says Susan, "We're eating better, sleeping better."
With "Three Calamities", Switchblade continues their evolution from
underground industrial phenomenon to a smart, sharp-tongued but radio friendly
band with songs such as "Invisible" and "Wicked." Tina puts
her operatic training to good use, her voice trilling like a lush instrument,
adding untold nuances to her terse but haunting lyrics. Susan's keyboard
melodies are lean and ethereal, lending a quality that is more dream-like and
contemplative than the relentless droning of many other industrial bands.
"Therapy" verges on industrial/funk with an infectious, perfect for
the dance floor beat. Switchblade Symphony echoes Siouxsie with a cleaner, more
sophisticated edge. Tina and Susan ,along with drummer Eric Gerbow and
guitarist George Earth, are gifted musicians, pushing American electronica to
newer, classier limits.